successor to Thinkige Kru whose feed doesn't seem to be working properly for reasons unknown - the old blog + archive remains here https://thinkigekru.blogspot.com/ -^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^vintage thoughts from others, vintage thoughts from me - varying degrees of profundity - thoughts quoted for the turn of thought / phrase rather than for truth value - quoted not necessarily because i agree with them or approve of them - i don't necessarily agree with my own past thinkiges!
"Sometimes my contribution [as a record producer] might have been as minimal as just saying, 'Shall we stop for a few minutes?... And then of course, other times I work like a normal musician. I say, 'Why don’t we have a G major instead of that B minor' or whatever. In fact, I nearly always say that, 'Why don’t we have a major instead of a minor?' It’s part of my destroy-minor-chords crusade that has been going on for 50 years or so"
- Brian Eno
Questions for people who know music from a musician's point of view:
- why would Eno take against minor chords? (Is it because they connote a "subtlety" that he finds middebrow, a too easy signaling of sophistication?)
- does Eno in fact avoid minor chords in his work? I haven't inspected them with this in mind (and not wholly confident I would spot their presence) but I can't help thinking that the downbeat, dreamy-drifty songs on Another Green World and Before and After Science might feature some minor chords...
There is something so delicious, so sensually pleasing, when
you come across a thinker whose ideas fit – not your own ideas, but impulses
that have yet to be properly formed into ideas – but now here they are, on the page, full-formed, spelled
out clearly, substantiated by the evidently great amount of
thinking, reading, listening behind it... a lifetime’s work of deep thought and
deep listening – and here you are, miraculously in accord – what you're reading strikes a chord, one that resonates
across your whole being, like a tuning fork!
So it is with Vladimir Jankélévitch and his bookMusic and the Ineffable
Can’t even remember how I came across it, what led me to it...
Vlad was a philosopher and music scholar, a contemporary of and an influence (probably) on Barthes and such
Gist of his polemic is that the essence of music, the most
important and deepest yet also blindingly obvious and on-the-surface quality of
it – is that it is something that cannot be spoken of, or written about. He, paradoxically, spends a whole book writing rivetingly about this impossiblity.
Attempts to write about music might have pleasing side effects and
induce pleasure in their own right, but they are extraneous, existing to one
side of the thing-in-itself
They do not, ultimately, illuminate what they are talking
about
They do not capture the quintessence nor successfully convert its sensations into the currency of thought
Music is not in fact a form of thought.... nor is to compose or play music an act of thinking, at least so far as thinking involves language and reasoning
Music is not reducible to, nor can it be or properly
understood as operating within the domain of Meaning.
Indeed "understanding" itself is not really the appropriate word.
For music doesn’t contain anything that could be sensibly called truth
Nor does it work through representation
There is nothing to understand, but everything to be felt
Janko junks the idea that music develops or has depth
Since the sensuous surface of music is all that is – it follows that there
is nothing behind it that is the truth of it, that can then be exposed or revealed
Moreover there is nothing outside the music that it refers to or derives it meaning from...
(NB I'm talking about music here as opposed to stuff that can be attached to the music - like lyrics)
Vladimir's stance is anti-hermeneutic –in that sense very much like Sontag’s "Against Interpretation" and I wonder if perchance she had read it (La Musique et L'Ineffable it was published in 1961, in French only, but only translated into English decades later)
Ah but Richard is "truth" even the right word for what music gives us?
According to the Man like Vlad...
Music is not mimetic, it doesn’t depict, nor does it really
evoke
Music does, music acts, music moves, music functions
It is an enchantment of time
Vladdo uses the concept of Charm, which is philosophically
freighted and derived from a particular thinker, but is understandable in the
original magical sense of the word, i.e. enchants (interesting that this word has "chants" in it - enchants comes from the French enchanter, which descends from Latin incantare, from in- ‘in’ + cantare ‘sing’)
Music fascinates and enthralls rather than signifies or enlightens
It lightens, irradiates
Two of VJ's key concepts are "charm" and the word "drastic"
Music beguiles (charm has a magical undertone but it also simply means a kind of attraction or magnetism that can't be explained)
By 'drastic' I think he means a dramatic, decisive, inarguable, unilateral effect on the listener, imposed whether you consent to it or not
Now I’ve long thought – probably since I first began formulating unformed thoughts about music, which would have been the Monitor years—that pop and rock are fundamentally irrational. Well, all music is: its effects on us bypass the faculties of reason and, at the extreme, sanity.
For sure, music can be harnessed for various ends, which might be more or less reasonable (as a vehicle for ideologies, beliefs, wisdom). It can be deployed for individual purposes by those gifted with its magic.
Critics and commentators can reason about music, about its cultural context and its social repercussions; they say things that make sense, that are more or less accurate or persuasive, about what surrounds music, or precedes music (the motivations and ideas of the artists) or comes out of music, "when the music's over".
But at heart and at base, music, even at its gentlest, is a kind of violence: it is an involuntary alteration of the listener’s mood, it incites or quells energy through intoxication, subjugation, force, enervation, melting.
Reference or association is either non-existent, tenuous, or
arbitrarily imposed, a completely external application to the music itself.
One version of “what this music is about” is substitutable
by another
With program music, the association – narrative, landscape –
does not inhere in any meaningful way to the sound itself.
The glommed-on story is not the truth of the music, and is only its referent via an agreed upon convention of listeners and critics.
Now popular music of course is entirely based around this
arbitrary imposition of a meaning to music
Since it is mostly – in the modern era, the post-jazz era – largely vocal and lyric-based
"Words and Music by _____"
Today, outside the specialist realm of dance music, there is
very little popular music that doesn’t have words welded to it that tell us what to feel, instruct us in what
the song is about
But, but, the music of a song, any song, has no inherent relation to
the lyrics
Any song you can think of could work almost as well, if
different lyrics were substituted
Except in the very loosest and vaguest form - the mood, tempo, the inherited associations
of certain kinds of key, vocal timbre....
Yes, it's true that lyrics can seem to fit the music perfectly,
directing how we receive its sensations and emotions
Rather like set and setting with a drug trip
And this is indeed the miracle achieved by a great pop song – you feel like “Eleanor Rigby”
could only have the words that "go with" that music.
But what Janko is talking about helps to explain why music can have the opposite effect
on us that its lyrics ought to induce
The paradox of sad music making us happy, uplifted
Now The Doors "LA Woman" – ought to be desolate, faintly
apocalyptic, and sorrowful – in fact it’s a celebration, rolling energy, all ease and glory.
A good example of this is that the lyrics of "Street Fighting Man" were decided upon very late in the process - after the music was basically done. Originally it had lyrics about something else altogether.
Precisely because of the power of music, the lyrics that were attached it to feel indelibly imprinted on the music and on popular memory, creating the feeling that this is the only thing the song could ever have been about.
But it might have been just as potent sonically and rhythmically with a bunch of words that were typical Stones stuff about chasing or demeaning a woman.
Conversely, the lyrics of "Street Fighting Man" would have zero incendiary qualities if clad in the sound of, say, Poco.
I also read recently that Exile on Main Street had a rather different working title - Tropical Disease. Imagine if that had stuck! The actual title is so determinative of how we respond to the music and how we read the whole Stones vibe of that moment.
Bit like how the title "Moments In Love" - chosen by Morley - determines how you respond to the music, originally an instrumental with no determinate or intended feeling. Such that Ann Dudley said the title alone deserves half the publishing credit.
Another good example out of so many - Roxy Music. Initially Bryan Ferry wrote the vocal melody and lyric at the piano. But at a certain point, quite early on, the band would write the whole track first, independently - and then Ferry would compose the vocal melody and come up with the words (being quite secretive about that process, as well as doing it at the very last minute - Manzanera told me of the surprise and the suspense re. what the words would be). So for instance "Mother of Pearl" - the music was created first, and then Ferry came up with what the song was "about". An indication of how "about" is not really an applicable word to use in regards to music-qua-music.
(I believe this was the case with quite a few Smiths songs - specifically "How Soon Is Now", which Marr created almost entirely on his own one weekend).
So yes, it's a convention that we all tacitly agree to adhere to - fans, critics, creators - that lyrics of songs and their titles have some kind of quasi-organic relationship to the music. That the semantic content is what the music is about, what it dramatizes.
But consider all the stories about how albums are actually written - so many involve the words being scrabbled together at the last minute in the studio. Stories of how the lyric-writing process starts with abstract vocalese or nonsense words, that only later get formed into lyrics.
The fated-feeling relationship between form and content is one of the great illusions pulled off by music - a testament to the way the music itself conjures a feeling of inevitability . You feel that the song could only have sounded this way, in this definitive execution - and as a knock-on effect, the words inherit or acquire the same rightness. (But of course there are demos and alternate takes and different mixes that in themselves show the contingent nature of any recording or writing)
Of course classical music – instrumental art music - often does have a relationship to the text
Not really meaning lieder here
But the tradition of composers taking inspiration from
poetry (or books, novels, plays, scripture, myth, folk tales) for works of instrumental music.
Often literally setting the poem to music, or being inspired
by it, sent on a musical journey
Yet the relationship of the poem to the musical outcome is
actually largely – ultimately - arbitrary
As can be seen by examples of different composers using the
same poem or sacred text - and coming up with a completely different outcome, musically.
The poem is a bit like the yeast in bread making - or some other germinal element
The sand in the oyster that results in the pearl – a kind of
inspirational irritant
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The elusive meta-ness of music - even a kind of tautologous opacity - is something that Boston reach for in their song "More Than A Feeling"
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Now as an example of this syndrome where you read the book and it articulates and ratifies what you already feel.... here's something I wrote about a year before reading Jankélévitch, on the ineluctable mystery of Television and Tom Verlaine's guitar:
The lyrics are purest dream - interpretation is beside the point, at once superfluous and sullying. The music is the main thing, but that too defies description or characterisation. Television's kinetic abstraction works through elemental dynamics of tension-build and climax. It's not about anything except its own structure-in-motion, the tone and timbre of the immaterial material out of which it constructs itself before your ears. Something for the technical guitar magazines, in a way, and yet that kind of terminology gets no closer to the magic than mind's eye guff does.
Surveying the literature on Television, even the most penetrating writers... I don't think anyone really gets near the magic and the mystery. I found a lot of it rather predictably evasive - not consciously so but veering off nonetheless to talk about the lyrics (in actual fact, usually just quoting favorite lyrics) or inter-band dynamics, the conflict with Richard Hell, how Television fit and didn't fit into the CBGB punk scene, Verlaine's personality / artistic-literary interests and influences, the legacy etc.
The magic and mystery gets written around more than written about. Which is something that goes on with a lot of music - maybe most music - but seems a particularly glaring absence with a group that is so purely musical - that says what it has to say through the music ( "say" itself is inadequate, not the right word - when communication is so ecstatically non-verbal, can it really be described as communication? It's more like an electric communion, a pure zapping transfer of energy... like being electrocuted. "Lightning struck itself" is the perfect meta-lyric in fact).
My favorite out of the pieces I've read remains the Nick Kent paean - not necessarily because it gets much closer to the quick of it - but because it's so immediate - there's a feeling of moment in the cadences - you imagine the writer trembling with the sense of occasion, the privilege of being the one who gets to mount the podium and introduce the world to this transformational record, this miracle... it's a tour de force of magisterially controlled excitement - in that sense, a prose mirror-image of its subject, Marquee Moon the album and the song.
This Nick Kent piece makes me think of what Artforum critic Carter Ratcliff said of his flamboyant contemporary Rene Ricard - not the negative carping, but the stuff about "gestures made in the vicinity" of a work, working not so much as analysis but as a kind of heralding, "Behold the New!""
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Some earlier thoughts of mine in this vicinity, on the subject of "the kind of rap I like"
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Jankélévitch in his own words
Wednesday, August 20, 2025
Sunday, August 17, 2025
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Charles Rosen, The Frontiers of Meaning: Three Informal Lectures on Music
Tuesday, August 12, 2025
"My favorite viewing, and this is the first time I have ever admitted it to anyone, but what I love to do, when I don’t watch evangelicals, when I can’t read or write and can’t go out walking, and don’t want to just tear my hair and destroy myself, I put on, here in New Haven, cable channel thirteen and I watch rock television endlessly.
"As a sheer revelation of the American religion it’s overwhelming. Yes, I like to watch the dancing girls too. The sex part of it is fine. Occasionally it’s musically interesting, but you know, ninety-nine out of a hundred groups are just bilge. And there hasn’t been any good American rock since, alas, The Band disbanded.
"I watch MTV endlessly, my dear, because what is going on there, not just in the lyrics but in its whole ambience, is the real vision of what the country needs and desires. It’s the image of reality that it sees, and it’s quite weird and wonderful. It confirms exactly these two points: first, that no matter how many are on the screen at once, not one of them feels free except in total self-exaltation. And second, it comes through again and again in the lyrics and the way one dances, the way one moves, that what is best and purest in one is just no part of the creation—that myth of an essential purity before and beyond experience never goes away. It’s quite fascinating"
Harold Bloom, 1991
Wednesday, August 6, 2025
"The call repeats itself into the infinite and liberates the mind of all reasonable inhibitions.... as in drug addiction, a thousand years of civilization fall away in a moment.... Rock & roll is a sign of depersonalisation of the individual, of ecstatic veneration of mental decline and passivity”
- Dr Joost A.M. Meerlo, New York Times, 1957
Tuesday, July 29, 2025
"What's interesting about rock 'n' roll is that its truly radical aspect occurs at the level of sound. ‘Tutti Frutti’ is far more revolutionary than Lennon's 'Woman Is the Nigger of the World,' and the sound of Dylan's voice changed more people's ideas about the world than his political message did."
- Robert Ray
"My argument has always been that the way rock works, both in terms of its emotional effectiveness but also in terms of its politics, is at the level of sound. No matter how powerful you think “Ohio” is, in terms of politics “Tutti Frutti” is more politically profound."
- Robert Ray
Having trouble correlating these righteous remarks with the barely-there quality of the sound of Ray's band The Vulgar Boatmen - The Feelies clarified to a consomme that barely touches the sides as it goes down.
Thinking more generally about this vague area of music - college rock (Ray is an actual college professor) and Amerindie.... Hoboken as haven on Earth.... The Feelies, Camper Van Beethoven, Miracle Legion, Yo La Tengo.... a sensibility big in the Eighties, as a reaction-formation against mainstream rock, but one that endures as a strain to this day
Is it that America is still a Puritan nation at heart?
How else to explain this musical preference for frugality of means and modesty of mode? The Quakerish premium on egalitarianism - the person onstage has no more of a voice than you do. A dislike of drama that taps into the deep Puritan tradition of anti-theatricality.
This taste formation doesn't go in for 'thickness'... it recoils from texturitis.... Performers can never be too self-effacing.
Which is why Scrawl, say, got a better critical reception than Throwing Muses
Why the Mekons were always more of a cause here than Morrissey & Marr